
Andrew Sullivan wrote to Lisa Miller who did the Newsweek piece titled St. Sarah, in which her "choice" to bring her fifth pregnancy to term is trotted out yet again as the key to her being percieved as a saint to the evangelical base. Sullivan asked Miller if she got any confirmation about the Trig birth story. She responds that she didn't, because, like, Sarah said it, which makes it true. Here's an excerpt from the email:
"Palin’s book and public remarks are my sources for the details about the birth of Trig. Despite your persistent interest in the matter, we have never found any reason to doubt Palin’s truthfulness regarding the circumstances of Trig’s birth. Further, I’d argue that obsessing over Trig’s parentage obscures the bigger – and more important – story. In some quarters, the left so loves to loathe Palin that it can’t or won’t acknowledge the real power she has among millions of people. With midterms coming up and a presidential election just two years away, understanding that power is crucial to understanding our political context.
I use the word “discomfiting” near the end of the story, then, because Palin seems to be telling the story over and over for personal or political gain. Thus, a sympathetic, human moment becomes a billboard; that makes me squeamish because a real child is involved."
"Never found any reason to doubt Palin's truthfulness?" She said she went into labor with a high risk pregnancy, prematurely, in Texas, then flew home, drove to the boonies, and then delivered the child at a tiny regional hospital? The reason to doubt the story is the story itself. If you don't believe it, present that steaming pile of crap to an OBGYN.
In the Newsweek story she says this:
"The Trig story, moving in its first hearing, turns discomfiting and self-serving upon repetition... When she’s talking about Trig, Palin is able—if just for a few minutes—to convince a lot of women that she’s just like them. She’s a hardworking mom with too much on her plate. Her momentary consideration of the alternatives makes her ultimate choice more sympathetic, not less. No matter what generations of activists on both sides say, there is gray area in the abortion debate, and Palin is claiming it for the Christian right."
So, let's just see if we've got this straight. You're saying that because of the story millions of people essentially worship her. But whether the story is actually true or not makes no difference? What if those who believe the story actually found out it's all a fabrication for the express purpose of manipulating them? That makes no difference? If trotting the kid out as a political prop is "discomfiting" how do you characterize faking the pregnancy in the first place? It would mean there was "no momentary consideration of the alternatives," nor was there a "sympathetic human moment." It makes the entire narrative a cynical, creepy ploy to manipulate people that she clearly believes are pretty damned stupid. So, explain again how asking the media to get at the truth misses the point. Please.
Yes, please. How can someone who lies, and lies, and then lies again,(about small things and big things) and then especially about something like this that is supposed to be the most cherished belief she holds, the sanctity of life, be heralded even if the story is not true? Explain.
ReplyDeleteAt Palingates this afternoon, newest post, the theory that someone/something/some corporation or whatever is behind her and using her very effectively at this point. Wouldn't you think her "handlers" whoever they are would have to know the truth about Trig? They would have to ask her/find out because it is the most prevalent controversy that surrounds her as it was the first thing read about her when she came on the scene in August 2008. The rumors already existed in Wasilla and Anchorage. The story had nothing to do with her being selected as VP although the truth of the story may very well have had everything to do with it. So her handlers must be betting that either the truth will never come out or that it will not matter to those who worship her.
ReplyDeleteThe people involved in the McCain campaign pretty much have to know the truth. They did everything they could to hide it, but it had to have come up when somebody suggested that they release her medical records, for instance. Her worshipers are pretty stupid, and might not even understand the difference between the truth and fiction. I agree that as quickly as the story cropped up upon her nomination, they had to have figured it out. John McCain's negligence was criminal.
ReplyDeleteI know. At this point in time, there are so many accessories to this fraud, before, during and after.
ReplyDeleteThe Former half term gov. lies perniciously. Almost any fact spewed from her has been through a commercial washer spin cycle with most of the actual "facts" rinsed away to only leave a semblance of truth. If Sarah said it was sunny – I would verify & confirm before believing her.
ReplyDeleteThe author for the Newsweek piece did not verify nor confirm - just stated as fact pre-reported statements. For this - I will agree with SP:
snip] ... the content is any indication of where Newsweek is going, it's no wonder that Newsweek is doing so poorly. People are not reading that stuff. It's not relevant. It's not interesting stuff that they're making up and writing. And that's why they're going down. [end snip
As for Trig, it is important to know the circumstances surrounding his birth. I believe this is an example of her potential leadership & decision making. Either the wild ride was a fabrication, or it was an attempt to have a "fundamental late term abortion" or she did not give birth to the child known as Trig. Legally, they may be Trig's parents, but that does not mean "birthed".
I believe that the Republicans know, and will bring out the story when they need to. (Personally, I think she had her tubes tied after Piper--I do believe that there is evidence in the medical records that she never produced). But while she serves their purpose, they're pretending to treat her as a viable candidate.
ReplyDeleteI wish the Enquirer would get on it-- I'm starting to believe the "Men in Black" story that they're the REAL news source!
Bravo, bravo, bravo! You nailed it! I was thoroughly disgusted to see Bill Maher sitting right there on his show Friday night with Rachel Maddow and the editor of Newsweek with him, and the SOB did not say one word about the stinking Newsweek cover that is on my latest blog post and yours! This is precisely why Babygate is everything! This is why most of the TV news pundits should be taken out and shot!
ReplyDeleteI have always come down on the side of the wild ride, because it is the essence of Sarah's self-absorbed world. I do believe she spent months in a girdle, drinking red bull and jumping up and down. Fundie abortion. The wild ride was her last chance. The story, in all of its pathetic details (which change now and then but still outline irresponsibility in every version), IS Sarah. She "chickened out" when she considered an abortion, but the desire remained. Babygate isn't necessary. Everything you need to know about Sarah is visible in her hidden pregnancy and wild ride. Since then she's shown no true caring about Trig. Sure, kissy kissy for the cameras, but Trig will not have a great life unless other members of the family supply it. Poor little guy.
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ReplyDeleteExcellent post. You used lazy Lisa's own words cutting Andrew to discredit her own argument.
It is discomfitting that Lisa bought the story hook, line and sinker without using Sarah's own Reaganesque challenge, "Trust, but verify!"
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to bother with the answers" - Thomas Pynchon
Agreed! This 'reporter' should go back to journalism school. Her logic needs a refresher.
ReplyDeleteEnjay failed to mention one other, very hairy alternative: that a woman who was nearly one malignant melanoma away from the Presidency of the US did give birth to Trig, but her judgment really is so poor as to make her think she should fly and drive all those hours while in labor with a high-risk pregnancy and leaking amniotic fluid so she could deliver in Mat-Su.
ReplyDeleteI also agree with Anon 3:17 that Mitt Romney is going to pay a very fat salary and promise a key post to someone from the 2008 McCain campaign who knows the truth.
If she is so proud of her child with special needs that someone else, besides Sarah, is caring for; the least Sarah could do is provide a birth certificate. Surely she knows what a birth certificate looks like.
ReplyDeleteThis whole business of Sarah worshipers reminds me of something my husband mentioned while talking about a fellow pilot he flew with. He asked the man, a Mormon, if he'd still believe even if proof existed that his religion was pure poppycock. The guy said yes, he would. This is a college educated, professional person, not some whacked out teabagger, pissed off about a black man in the White House, uber religious nutball.
ReplyDeleteIf someone of that intelligence can still buy bullshit, no matter what comes out about $aint $arah, the sheeple will still cling to her like they do to their guns, god and hatred of anything not THEM.
I think the handlers protected Sarah from the truth long enough until the Lie had a life of its own. The Lie is the validation for its own truthiness. People say, "Surely it must be true, because by now it would have been exposed if it were not true". I despair for our democracy with such a useless, useless press.
ReplyDeleteI agree with your statement completely. It's like the non-vetting by McCain's team, which lead them to nominate Palin. Once she was nominated he couldn't undo it because to undo it would be tantamount to admitting he screwed up and acted impulsively. Once they found out about the baby hoax they had made the choice to cover it up. Now, to let anything out about it would implicate the whole gang in perpetrating a fraud. So they just keep perpetrating it.
ReplyDeleteSo in light of the last two comments (Lynn and Palinoscopy) was Lisa Miller asked to do this article, address the "Christianity" of Saint Sarah, and mention the Trig story but give sort of a stamp of approval to it to further consolidate her path to the White House? It is the first mention of babygate in the mainstream except for Andrew Sullivan (who is really having a hard time with this article in Newsweek, thank goodness).
ReplyDeleteI really can't believe the number of people who think that if palin looked like she did in the gusty picture, that she would have been allowed on a plane. please think.
ReplyDeleteSince most of what she says is pure poppycock with a small kernal of truth in it, I think that one of her ,ahem, Miscarriages was arranged. And the things she talked about thinking, may have gone through her mind, at the first abortion (baby supposedly dead) or her second, ahem, Mis.
ReplyDeleteWe all re-arange our memories, but strive to be truthful.
Sarah Palin has gone one step further, she re-aranges her past and her actions, and dares anyone to challenge them.
Why didn't the McCain people kick her in the but, call her the liar that she is, and tell the American people.
Because they would look as stupid as she is.
That's it. McCain can't reveal what he knows about her without revealing his own idiocy.
ReplyDeleteEmrysa, if Palin looked like she did in the Gusty photo, she still would have been allowed on the plane as they did not have a policy that prohibited women to fly during the later months of pregnancy. However, the flight attendants when interviewed, said there was nothing about Palin that appeared out of the ordinary, they obviously didn't know she was pregnant. They also should have seen her getting up to use the bathroom repeatedly as anyone who has been pregnant can testify to the fact that we spend far too much time in them during the last months of pregnancy due to the baby sitting on your bladder and shrinking its size. She boarded not one, but two flights and nothing unusual was noted. Also when Todd spoke to her staff in AK after the speech she gave, he NEVER mentioned her being in labor. If he had, they would have had an ambulance waiting and that would not have fit in with her plans. However, any caring pregnant woman who could have had that type of service would have accepted it and glady done so while thinking only of her baby's health.
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